Please remember! These are archives! The Dice Setter message board was shut down. What is published here are just a few of the threads documenting the early days of dice setting strategies and opinions written by the pioneers of dice influencing.
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Well, I finished my practice table. I quickly learned how much I have to learn!
The three fingered grip is the most widely recommended grip. It should give you the a lot of control with practice.
I agree with Engineer. There really is no such thing as a beginners grip in my eyes. There is just good grips and bad grips and personally I feel the 3 finger grip is the best.
The best way to start out is to try some throws with a few different grips and pick the one which is most comfortable. My opinion on bad grips is that there is no such thing IF you can throw well with it.
From the start I am only comfy with the 2 finger grip, with thumb and middle finger /
top edge grip.
Steve, I just have one question for you. Are you making money with your grip? If you
answer no then yes you should change your grip unless you just started it. But if you have
been at it a long time then perhaps something else may be better for you.
Spiff I went to Dice Setter`s pictures of grips and tried them all and have finally settled on two-fingered pincher from SR1 or SR2 and the Diagonal grip from the end of the table. But I do try other grips in practice. But you must find the ones that you are comfortable with
What is the three-finger grip? I don't have my book in front of me. Is there a picture on IS's website?
T-shooterThe first couple of pics on this page http://www.dicesetter.com/setting/mytoss.htm is the three fingered grip. The grip is shown with fingers "deep" which means close to the bottom of the dice. Most shooters who use this grip probably grip them closer to the middle or the three fingered top grip. (Fingers on the top corner of the dice) By adjusting the depth of the grip (both front fingers and back) you can make adjustments in the amount of backspin you impart on the dice.
I played around with it today but I like the 3-finger diagonal grip better. It lets me have more control on the backspin.
Two fingers and the thumb is the three finger grip from what I always considered. Sure you can argue the thumb is not a finger but we aren't in science we are talking craps. Also Spiff quick question for you. When you say you have control of your backspin better do you mean you like to cause a backspin or attempt to stop it?
Spiff I had had some of my better tosses at casinos using that Diagonal grip----Good luck
The best results I am having is using the three-finger diagonal grip, a low toss arc,
and a medium amount of backspin on the dice. One of the major concerns I have is that my
table is REAL bouncy and I am not sure how "casino-like" it is. That's why I like
a bit of backspin so I can counteract some of the bouncy-ness.