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Please remember! These are archives! The Dice Setter message board was shut down. What is published here are just a few of the threads documenting the early days of dice setting strategies and opinions written by the pioneers of dice influencing. Favorite Tables Kelly We're off to class this weekend, and I'm gathering a list of
favorite tables for setters. Spike717 Downtown is great! Try El Cortez, short table, dollar minimums. Also Las Vegas Club, and check out Main St. Station. $5 min., 20x odds (if u can afford it), and great beers. Don't give Fitzgeralds a second thought.Heavy The table closest to the bar at the Golden Nugget is the shortest
one in their pit - and is known by the locals as "the candy store." Mad Professor Hi Kelly, Stu To Mad P.When you say "increase your trajectory", is that the height or the length of the throw? ....or both? Thanks in advance. Kelly thank you to all--lots of great info!especially Mad P--wow! i am going to print your list and keep it as part of my permanent crap notes. rhythm dice setter Love the tub at Casino Royale. be careful on the regular
tables as they are the long ones. Agree with others that Frontier tables are great
for setters plus business is slow there so you can find fairly empty table late at nite or
early morning. Pablo I guess everyone has their own favorites and it may simply be where you've had the best luck.If you have a car you might want to venture out Boulder Highway and check out Arizona Charlie's East. A small casino with short tables and nice friendly crew. Don't go early in the morning as the table doesn't open until afternoon, 2:00 I think. I like the tables at both Mirage and Treasure Island. Nice short length and not a lot of bounce. Flamingo Hilton went to the short tables (12') a few weeks ago and I found them to be the most bouncy of any I had played on in a long time. I've also had good luck at Fitzgerald's and like their tables a lot. Friendly dealers and no heat to setters. pj Great info. I also will keep records of these casinos. I am going to Vegas in about a week. When discussed "short tables and especially Treasure Island having 20" shorter, would a good practice distance be 6'5" from SR1? Mad Professor Stu,Yes, when I say increase the trajectory, I mean increase the height of the throw, but not the distance. This results in a higher landing angle for the dice. PJ, Yes, a 6' to 6.5' practice distance would be correct for the Treasure Island tables. Pablo, Yes, the new Flamingo tables are bouncy, but a very low-trajectory throw rolls fairly true. Give their new felt a few more weeks to wear-in; then give them another cautious try. As to the Fitzgerald tables, I've only had good fortune with these ones when I change over to my Long-Ranger grip and toss. Shotputter Any thoughts on any of the tables at the Station or Coast casinos? Mad Professor Shotputter,That was a good question about the Station and Coast casino tables in Las Vegas. Here's my thoughts: GOLD COAST: If you've read my articles, you know that I like the tables here. If they have a couple of $2 or $3 and $5 tables open; expect the $5 one to be MUCH emptier than the cheaper alternatives. The only problem is that you can expect a full house on your PARR weekend. If you play on the graveyard shift, Godfrey the Pit Supervisor will not hassle VERY short-rolling. The table closest to the Sports Book and Bar is most difficult because it gets the least amount of play. "Opposite-corner-shooting" has proven be quite consistent on this one. BARBARY COAST: Be careful if you start to string together too many "lucky" hands. THEY WILL SWEAT THE MONEY! The tables are hard, but not bouncy. Expect slight heat if you don't consistently hit the back wall. As Cheech and Chong would say, "Toke early and toke consistently". It sometimes takes a while before you get the crew and the box on your side. The table closest to the Flamingo Road entrance (check-in desk) has a straight and true rolling lane parallel to the Pass Line. Reduce your dice-momentum to their minimum, and consistency on this table is AMAZING! ORLEANS: I don't know that you'll get the dice very often on these tables. They are pretty good, but they aren't consistent enough for me to truly call this place "home". Instead, it is great for a "hit and run" one-hand strategy. The food is good, the entertainment is great, but don't expect too many shooting opportunities. SUNCOAST: Ah, good tables. If you plan a late, late (read: 4:00 am to 6:00 am) shooting-session, this place is worth the drive. The local crowd and the golf-crowd turn in fairly early here. If red-haired Barbara-Jean (BJ) is supervising the game, toke ONLY on the Pass Line and make sure she sees it. Even if it's only a buck ($1) with 2x Odds, it will pretty much guarantee a comp to one of their high-end gourmet rooms. GREEN VALLEY RESORT: I haven't dialed in their tables as well as I would like. I can tell you that the table closest to the Bar has a very forgiving sweet spot about 6-inches from the the back wall (straight out). If you use a 45-degree or higher landing angle; you will find a perfect dead-cat bounce hiding under this spot. I can't speak intelligently about the other table, as I do not have enough data to form any definitive opinions. BOULDER STATION & PALACE STATION: I can group these two together because their tables and the expected results are about the same. I'm not a huge fan of these tables because of the crowds. The low-minimums especially at BS keep the tables busy just about 24-hours a day. The SL and SR positions are usually occupied by a handfull of local players who camp out there on a daily basis. They aren't Precision-Shooters, just random-rollers who have their mail forwarded to their favorite spot at the tables. Some people play these tables for 8 to 14 hours EACH and every day. SUNSET STATION: Ohhh, one of my favorites. Even though they have long tables here, the first three SR & SL positions are close enough to provide some GREAT consistency. One word of caution, DO NOT take them for too much money. Greed will get you 86'd from shooting. There is a small group of local Precision-Shooters who are allowed to win virtually every day, BUT the unwritten rule is that you DO NOT take them for more than $300 per day. If you don't abide by the rules, you will find yourself unwelcome from shooting. They will simply pass you by, and tell you that you are not permitted to shoot. The table (angled) closest to the Gaudi Bar is the most forgiving as far as non-bouncy throwing is concerned. TEXAS STATION & SANTE FE STATION: Very good tables here. During late-night weekdays, these tables are empty, but weekend action is quite steady. You might try 3:00 am to 5:00 am, for some fairly frequent throwing opportunities. The primary sweet-spot for me is at the outer (farthest) edge of the Come-Box. However, reduce your throwing energy to its lowest possible level. These tables carry a lot of speed in forward-momentum. If you need info on the Fiesta-NLV, Barley's, Wild West, Jokers Wild, or Fiesta-Henderson tables, please let me know. rhythm dice setter Have better success at Green Valley tables than the other
Station casinos. The longer tables at the Stations casinos has kept my SRR down from
normal but still above 10. Maybe your info will help out. heavy Suncoast is Beaudacious' "home" casino - he plays there fairly often along with the rest of the 4am crowd. Hmmmm. MP - have you two met? We might could arrange a little private pitchin' party either in September during G2E - or November with Irish, Beau and I are doing the clinic in Vegas. Just a thought. I plan to check out Suncoast when I'm out there in September - pick up a players card and get in a little rated play - see if I can't get on their comp list.
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