Newsletter October 2013

It's More Fun When You Are Winning!

Volume 13 : Issue  8


In This Edition:

Soft Touch Says

Roll Charting the Tables

Fatherly Advice

Who Ya Gonna Call?

Soft Touch Says

My Dear Readers,

"Yikes Mister!", as the Dice Coach likes to say. My comment in last months news about trying a few new things during Dice Busters last June, buried Ed with email letters asking me to share more. Okay then, here is a bit of it. The rest I'll keep tight until next June 21st. Hint: (DBE)

Soft Touch 


Roll Charting the Tables

By Deborah Garcia

            During our last Dice Busters workshop we introduced the value of charting a table to the students.  The purpose of this exercise was to focus attention on what is happening in real-time at the tables. This way we are able to keep our students fixated on the present moment and teach them how to respond to the energy of the table and more specifically what the dice rolls are indicating in the moment of a particular session.

            Charting is a simple way of gathering information. It is a valuable way to understand the prevailing energy of the table and whether it will support the type of play a player wishes to apply to a session.

            Since bankroll preservation is our priority, charting before entering a game can make or break our session buy-in within the first 18 rolls. With patience and discipline we gain insight as to what is happening at the table at that specific moment in time.  We often call this qualifying the shooter and the table.

            Although there has always been much discussion, both pro and con, as to whether anything can be gained by gathering charted information, I personally have always charted the tables I play. I fell into the exercise of recording rolls at the table since my coaching days with Jerry Patterson and his PARR group. This was in the early 2000’s and I found at that time, and still do now, that I am able to get a better sense of direction of what numbers will be rolling.  I have saved myself a lot of chips by doing so and in most cases taken my profit off the table at just the right time.

            Back in those PARR days while working with the students and charting their rolls at the Fremont Casino in Downtown Las Vegas a pit boss approached me to inquire about what I was doing. I showed him my note pad and told him I was recording the dice rolls. “For what?” he responded. Well, I really did not want to share that I was there helping the players refine their tosses, so I simply said “It helps me know what the next number will be.”

            The pit boss shook his head, smiled and said “okay, what will the next number be?” I quickly glanced at the rolls and responded “it will be a four.” As predicted, the next roll was a four. Laughing, Mr. Pit boss walked off and left me alone. That four wasn’t the only roll I could sense as the next roll. I could get a sense of patterns of numbers appearing with some regularity that could present betting opportunities.

            Since that time, I realized that there was a greater value to roll charting than just documenting what the left and right die were doing as the student released their toss. There seemed to be a greater influence being exerted beyond just the mechanics. Perhaps a player could get a sense of signature numbers and patterns during a session by documenting the patterns of the rolls.

            I have to admit there was a time period when I decided to leave the note pad at home with my own personal shooting sessions. At that time I was focused on refining other parts of my game. I decided to take up charting once again after cleaning out my closet and finding my old note pads that documented rolls from my PARR coaching days and from previous Dice Buster workshops. For me, I am able to bet more strategically with note pad in hand than without it.

            As I reviewed those old charts, I came to the realization that the dice speak volumes about their behavior. The key is to understand the information collected in real time and make it work for you. Trust what these two little cubes are saying and then make the leap by betting accordingly. Granted, there is a huge personal paradigm shift that has to occur in order to make this work.

            Do we trust the information we see unfold before us and act, or watch the opportunity just slip by?

            If you are a player who believes he or she influences the dice, then charting can be an essential part of your dice playing tool box.  How each player focuses their influence can be debated. Some players believe we can influence the dice through mechanics and other players believe otherwise. Some players will believe that charting has validity and others will think there is no value in it because each dice roll acts independent from the previous roll.

            Here’s a recent roll I recorded during a session with my students. The session is recorded from the time I bought-in at the table with a group of students from our workshop. Does anything “pop-out” at you?  

2- 5- 9- 7- 8- 10- 10- 7- 8- 9- 9- 6

8- 10- 9- 6- 9- 5- 5- 6- 8- 11- 8- 9

3- 4- 5- 9- 6- 11- 9- 9- 3- 7- 3- 8

10- 4- 6- 6- 9- 6- 9- 10- 7- 8- 6- 4

7- 2- 3- 11- 8- 7- 6- 4- 9- 9- 5- 6

4- 3- 5- 5- 10- 7- 9- 5- 7- 6- 5- 8

9- 9- 4- 4- 5 -2- 2- 8- 9- 7- 11- 5

3- 11- 7- 5- 6- 7- 5- 9- 4- 4- 7- 9

5- 11- 11- 7


Here are some of the things I noticed:


2- 5- 9- 7- 8- 10- 10- 7- 8- 9- 9- 6

8- 10- 9- 6- 9- 5- 5- 6- 8- 11- 8- 9

3- 4- 5- 9- 6- 11- 9- 9- 3- 7- 3- 8

10- 4- 6- 6- 9- 6- 9- 10- 7- 8- 6- 4

7- 2- 3- 11- 8- 7- 6- 4- 9- 9- 5- 6

4- 3- 5- 5- 10- 7- 9- 5- 7- 6- 5- 8

9- 9- 4- 4- 5 -2- 2- 8- 9- 7- 11- 5

3- 11- 7- 5- 6- 7- 5- 9- 4- 4- 7- 9

5- 11- 11- 7

Of the 100 rolls, 13 are 7’s.  Within normal probability, this number should be 16.6.

Since the 7’s are less than the probability, one would think we have a hot table.  But look at the numbers again. There is only one natural come-out 7.  There were only 2 passes made and 12

Don’t passes made. In this case, betting against the shooter would be the way to go.   

Also look at how the numbers fell. 

First row: 10’s 9’s are signature numbers

Second row:  9’s and 5’s are signature numbers

Third row:  9’s are still signature numbers

Fourth row:  6’s and 9’s are signature numbers

Fifth row:  6’s and 9’s are signature numbers

Sixth row:  5’s are signature numbers

Seventh row:  9’s and 4’s are signature numbers

Eighth row:  4’s are signature numbers. 

            Watch the game closely and selectively and then bet the signature numbers for only a limited time. In this case you would have made money on these rolls. 

            When something happens enough times at the tables, how many times does it have to keep occurring before players decide to act upon it? This goes beyond the “see a horn, bet a horn” mentality. It has to do with reading the prevailing energy and observing the signature numbers occurring in the moment and being able to weave in and out of the game as the seven cycle comes through. Or, with this information in hand, a player can simply hold back and wait for a better playing opportunity.

            Watching this most recent documented session unfold, it was easy for me to weave in and out with my bets. And at certain points I called-off those bets to preserve my profit.

            Some observers scratch their heads believing that documentation doesn’t work. That’s okay with me. I won’t debate the issue with anyone as I count the profit from my session while other players sigh from a draw down all from the same session.

            The best player I know that has learned how to weave in and out of the game through charting is the Dice Coach. Having been to the craps tables for as long as he has, charting has become a valuable tool for him and I have watched him profit more often than not.

            Another valuable message was shared by Michael Vernon, aka The Professor, during our last Dice Busters workshop.  He said “nothing in life has meaning except the meaning you give it.” 

            This is very true in both the game of craps and in life. If things occur during the game and grab your attention, then it is up to us to assess whether it has meaning to us or not. That is the same with charting. If taking a pen to paper during a game has no meaning to you then, as The Professor also likes to state, “Take no notice.”

As for me I try to notice all things, - with pen and paper in hand.

See you at the tables.

Soft Touch 


Fatherly Advice


Hi Ed,

What should I do about my Dad? He's 82 and still wants to gamble. Am I being an enabler?  He asks me if I want to go gambling and I say no. He says I'll drive my own self...so here we go again. Although you don't have to twist my arm. Serious reply appreciated. Thanks, Ted



Hi Ted,


Life is short. The older you get the more this saying is realized.


In the end it is the little things in life that makes a life, a life…. Some of these things are children, family, friends, and the accomplishments knowing that with every attempt, there was a positive reason for doing it. Success and failure are not the measurements of ones life as much as how we lived our life.


My mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer at 79. Just before the diagnosis she appeared quite well and was able do to everything that she enjoyed. A year and a half later she was dead. That last 18 months were sad. Not just because of the disease, but mostly because my mom was restricted to staying home. She did not have the energy to do the things she enjoyed. You can imagine how it feels to want to do things and not to be able to do them.


If going to the casino is something that you have time for and enjoy, I do not see it as an enabling act... more like an act of kindness.


If going to the casino is something that you resent, then perhaps figure out a compromise with your Dad for the times when it does works for you.


There is a fine line between your life’s needs and your Dad’s. Sometimes we are called on to make sacrifices that we do not want to make or understand the reason. Sometimes the understanding comes later. Sometimes it’s never. Trust in a belief that everything happens for a reason. You are not alone in you situation as so many of us Baby Boomers come face to face with having to deal with the end years of our parents' lives.


I still remember the last time I took my mom to play slots. She won. I never did get to shoot craps with my dad.


Ted, going to the casino and having to play every time you go is not a rule. I just mention this in passing. Sometimes just being his companion and knowing that you shared time with your Dad is the important part of the experience.


In just one day you can benefit from the

Dice Busters Experience!

Join Them June 21std, 2014


Dice Busters™ - June 2014


    Take your game to the next level in Las Vegas!

Team up with

 Beau Parker - The Dice Coach,

Deborah Garcia - Soft Touch

Michael Vernon - The Professor.


Las Vegas - June 21st, 2013


Call Toll Free to Register 866-342-3626



If you are not Playing 4 Keeps, perhaps you should.

Do's and Don'ts of Dice Playbook

Orders usually ship same day.


Contact us if you have any comments or ideas for future issues, feel free to email our editor. ed@dicesetter.com

Dice Setter.com Newsletter™ is published by DiceSetter.com. It is intended to be informational and entertaining. Do not consider the information a guarantee for supplementing or replacing income. Casino games are adult entertainment, games to be played and enjoyed. It is the intention of the publisher to provide information so the reader may play with more enjoyment. Opinions expressed by the contributing authors are not necessarily shared or endorsed by the publisher. Winning is a goal and not a guarantee.


Play Responsibly


© 2013 DiceSetter.com. All Rights Reserved , No Reproduction Without Prior Written Consent

& A Link Back to DiceSetter.Com Please Email ed@dicesetter.com for more information.



Dice Coach & InstructorsNewsletter / Contact / Home

Copyright 2001 - 2017, All Rights Reserved, DiceSetters.com, No Reproduction Allowed Without Prior Written Approval.

Online Since February 2001

Designed by www.MrPositive.com