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Please remember! These are archives! The Dice Setter message board was shut down. What is published here are just a few of the threads documenting the early days of dice setting strategies and opinions written by the pioneers of dice influencing. Dice Sets: V-3's versus X'd 6's The Man In Black V3 (Flying V) vs. X6 (Crossed Six) Heavy That's why I shoot the crossed sixes.
When I shoot a seven with the crossed sixes it is invariably the 6-1, because I've
double pitched one die. However, the V-3 seems to be an equal opportunity seven set
for me. I see them all - not just the 3-4. Our friend Sharpshooter has done
quite a bit of research on the topic of "secondary numbers" - numbers that roll
when the dice get a quarter turn off axis in any direction - and "thirds" -
numbers that roll when you get the double pitch or roll. His conclusion - the safest
set for MOST precision shooter is the hardway set with the 6-1 6-1 on the sides. I
haven't seen his new book yet - but I suspect when it gets out he'll have the charts on
this included. The negative, of course, is that the hardway set is just another
permutation of the all-sevens set - which has four sevens on axis. Frankly, it
scares the heck out of me. Shooter57 I find the V6 good end to end throwing if I dont get heat for not rolling them up to the wall .The crossed 6s I find are good from any position and good for lots of 10s thrown stacked from stick right .The V2 has always been a write off for me may as well throw from the darkside. The all 7s set with the 6s on top 5/2 facing down table performs as advertised 7s and horn #s point when set usually inside number. Amazing what a 1/4 turn of the dice can accomplish. Kelly I've settled into practicing with crossed
sixes, and like them a lot. Much more success than with the 3V or hardway sets. Irishsetter I started with the V-3's but changed to the X'd 6's mostly
because I throw it more consistently. I've said this many times, the V-3's is a
great set, it gives you more room for error, and is good for the risk adverse shooter.
With that said, for me the crossed sixes is like an old friend. We've grown up
together, and I know all it's quirks and faults...and I'm comfortable with it just the
same. Shotputter This is an interesting topic. Ive
recently been practicing looking for 2 things out of my sessions. Pablo Shotputter, Shotputter I don't use different color dice. I tried
it and found it too distracting. The dice I have (both the ones PARR gave me and the ones
I bought at Gambler's General Store) have different (but very close) production numbers on
them. In any case, I take a thin Sharpie pen and put a black dot on the 1 pip, although I
can generally figure out which die is which. But yes, it is important to track what the
left die is doing independent from the right die. We think numbers when playing craps, but
the reality is you are throwing two separate dice that interact with each other.
Obviously the objective is to get both acting exactly the same way. I totally agree. I try and concentrate on
the components of the delivery and getting that right. If you get that right your results
will be better. This is why I don't care what set I'm using during practice. I don't need
to change the set if the practice session is not going well. I need to focus on the
components of the delivery. Also my favorite set because I like playing the 6 & 8. But now I can see what different sets will bring me based on my shooting. Instead of practicing with different sets to see how they work, I can just concentrate on my toss and figure out which sets will be best for the situation I'm in while shooting. I'm also starting to end my practice sessions with simulated hands. By that point in my practice session, I'm getting heat from the family about finishing practice. I've had my wife tell me to quickly finish up so I can do something for her. I told her I'd leave when I 7-out. Sometimes I 7-out right away. One time last week I threw another 20 times (V3) with her standing there yelling at me. After that practice session (when she finally calmed down) she told me she wants to go back to Vegas. Steve Shotputter, Shotputter Steve, Steve Thanks Shotputer, I'll keep an eye peeled. And congrats for figuring out how to compute that! Dylanfreak I like the Flying V much better than the crossed sixes---The flying V for me is a more forgiving set when one or more of the dice are off axle. Also since the Cross sixes produce so much trash (and I am not a horn bettor) it really is of no significance to me to use that set. The only numbers I place 99% of the time are the 6/8 so the Flying V is for me. Black Cloud UGHHH!! Dylan Brave, no like horn ? 8) Play Field, throw trash Dylanfreak BC I just don`t like any one throw bet Dylanfreak ("I`m liberal to a degree-I want everybody to be free--but if you think I`d let Barry Goldwater move next door and marry my daughter--you must think I`m crazy) Bubbles For me the v3 works the best. I think mainly
because I keep the dice low no more than 6 off the table, that I rarely get a
double pitch. If there are chips in the way of my shooting and I have to loft
the dice a little higher, then there is the increased danger of one or both die popping up
in the air & getting a double pitch.
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