Newsletter August 2014

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Soft Touch Says

All Tall, Small...

Who Ya Gonna Call?

Hello my dear readers,

This month we have a guest posting, my friend Harley Horn. Harley has been around the game of craps for many years. He now resides in Las Vegas and is well versed and up to date with current gaming conditions. The post from Harley is shared from his blog. Harley writes about the All, Tall, Small wager. I have also provide a link following Harley's post for those of you not familiar with the play.

Soft Touch 

All, Tall, Small...

As we have discussed before, there are no craps laws or regulations in Las Vegas or Nevada so the Casino can make up or change at any time whatever craps rules they wish.  In fact, unlike most states where the Casino's license is owned by the taxpayers of the state and therefore a patron has the right to play as a resident or visitor of the state, this is not so in Nevada where the Casino has the right to refuse any bet. And this is the case with the All, Tall, Small Bonus Craps Bets:

These are 3 separate proposition bets that first started at Sam's Town on Boulder Highway several years ago. Then within the last few years these Bonus Bets spread like wild fire when Galaxy Gaming  http://www.galaxygaming.com/  purchased the rights and started marketing it across the United States.  You can get more information about these Bonus Bets from Procraps4u2 Link  or WizardofOdds.com Link

However, most casinos do not properly allow you to bet these Craps Bonus bets: 

1.  Sam's Town will no longer let anyone re-bet these 3 proposition bets on any roller once a Come-out 7 is thrown, whereas the normal rules of the game allow you to re-bet EACH of these proposition bets ANYTIME after a 7 or after they are made. Sam's Town only allows you to bet the All, Tall, Small proposition bets once per roller -- Do they allow only 1 Hard 8 bet per roller? -- Is Sam's Town still in the gambling business?

2.  Most other casinos, except Downtown Grand Las Vegas Casino will not allow you to re-bet either Half after they are made until after the ALL bet is made or until the next shooter.  Both the SMALL bet and the TALL bet are independent proposition bets and once made should be able to be re-bet regardless if the ALL bet has been made or not.  However, most of the casinos argue that the 3 bets are NOT independent and can not be re-bet until the ALL bet is completed or a 7 is rolled.

How can so many casinos and so many professional dealers get it wrong 24/7 for so long? This is not much different than how the casinos can wrongly use unbalanced dice for so long with so many dice experts and dealers not knowing they do.

Many of the dealers said they did not know how to mark the Half that was already made. Seriously? All you have to do is turn the Lammers on that side over differently or mark it some other way -- these professionals have several little tricks of keeping track of unlabeled Hop bets and what's on the table and in your pocket.

As for Sam's Town, we just quit playing there. It is not craps consumer friendly, especially since they do not use balanced dice most of the time. However, with the other casinos I have had numerous conversations with dealers and Boxmen as well as conversations with Galaxy Gaming and finally a possible resolution.

On July 9th, Galaxy Gaming in Las Vegas had an internal meeting to discuss this problem of the Casinos not properly playing their bet and concluded the following:

• Discussed the mathematician's study that re-betting either Half does not change or increase the House advantage,
• To Discuss with each casino that re-betting either the SMALL bet or TALL bet after it is made (but before the ALL bet is completed) is no different than re-betting the Hard 8 after it is made so that they can give this option to their customers if they wish in Nevada,
• Galaxy Gaming is to develop new Lammers (Markers) for each casino that will say something like "Small Side Qualified" or "Tall Side Qualified"  to make it dealer friendly.

As a consumer you have a choice where to spend your entertainment dollar... and now you may want to ask before you buy-in what the House rules are on re-betting these proposition Bonus Bets... as you have a choice to walk across the street or fly to a different state.

​Harley Horn

Craps Advantage Players ® (CAPs)

Post Script:

- NYNY in Las Vegas violates the basic rules of this game as they do not pay off any of the 3 proposition bets until after a 7-out instead of immediately after a decision is made on each of these independent bets.

- Most other casinos, except Downtown Grand Las Vegas Casino will not allow you to re-bet either Half after they are made until after the ALL bet is made or until the next shooter. Both the SMALL bet and the TALL bet are independent proposition bets and once made should be able to be re-bet regardless if the ALL bet has been made or not. However, most of the casinos argue that the 3 bets are NOT independent and can not be re-bet until the ALL bet is completed or a 7 is rolled. (see 2:40 of the video)

These bets are now on over 80 tables in Las Vegas including the new SLS casino -- it is time Vegas got it right.

Ciao,
Harley

For those of you not familiar with All, Tall, Small wager (Bonus Craps) a short description along with the house odds are provided by Donald Catlin

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