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Dice Setter Precision Shooter's Newsletter

Volume IV : Issue VI

February/March 2005

Welcome to another edition of the Precision Shooter Newsletter!  January and February were incredibly busy on the site.  In fact, they were the busiest months in history.  So, to all of you newcomers, welcome!  And to those of you who've been around for awhile, thanks for your continued support of Dice Setter.  

In this edition:
Door Number Two
Crapsfest is Back!
Maddog's Journey - Part 9
Shooting From The Don’ts…A Journey of Opportunity - Part VI
14 Months at the Sic Bo Table


Door Number Two
By Steve "Heavy" Haltom

A few years back Marilyn vos Savant, who writes the “Ask Marilyn” column in Parade Magazine, caused quite a stir with her answer to the following reader’s question: 

"Suppose you're on a game show, and you're given the choice of three doors: Behind one door is a car; behind the others, goats. You pick a door, say No.1, and the host, who knows what's behind the other doors, opens another door, say No. 3, which has a goat behind it. He then says to you, 'Do you want to switch to door No.2?'  Is it to your advantage to make the switch?"

Her answer -- that the contestant should always switch doors -- has been analyzed by mathematicians at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and computer programmers at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. It has been tested in classrooms from second grade to graduate level at thousands of schools around the world.  And it still stirs debate among people who see it for the first time. 

Let’s restate the problem.  Monty Hall, a fine, upstanding game-show host, has randomly placed a car behind one of three closed doors. There is a goat behind each of the other two doors. "First you point to a door," he explains. "Then I'll open one of the other doors to reveal a goat. After I've shown you, the goat, you make your final choice, and you win whatever is behind that door.”

You really want that new car. But you know you only have a one-in-three chance of getting it right.  You point to Door Number One.  Mr. Hall opens Door Number Three and shows you a goat. Now there are two doors remaining.  It seems like your odds just improved to 50/50.  Do you stick with Door One or do you switch to Door Number Two? Or doesn't it matter?

To see which strategy works best you can try playing the game over and over to see which wins most often. The results contradict most people's intuition that, when there are only two unopened doors left, the odds on each one must be one-in-two, or 50/50.  But the fact that Mr. Hall opened another door did not affect the odds on Door Number One.   You had a one-in-three chance of being right to begin with, and you still have a one-in three chance after he opens Door Number Three and shows you the goat.  You knew he was going to open another door and reveal a goat regardless of what was behind Door Number one, so his action provides no new information about Door Number One. Therefore, since the odds on Door 1 are still one-in-three, and the only other place the car could be is behind Door Number Two, the odds of Door Number Two being the correct choice are now two-in-three.  

Another way to explain this is as follows. The probability of picking the wrong door in the initial stage of the game is two-out-of-three. If the contestant picks the wrong door initially, the host must reveal the remaining empty door in the second stage of the game. Thus, if the contestant switches after picking the wrong door initially, the contestant will win the prize. The probability of winning by switching then reduces to the probability of picking the wrong door in the initial stage, which is clearly two-out-of-three.

Still don’t get it?  There are literally hundreds of on-line math-game sites where you can test the theory.

Have fun with it.

Crapsfest is Back!

Join Heavy, Soft Touch, Dice Coach, Michael "The Professor" Vernon and friends May 20 - 22, 2005 in fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada for three days of seminars, one-on-one coaching, and live casino sessions. It is THE craps event of 2005.

Here's what attendees had to say about Crapsfest 2004: 

"The best time ever! I WILL be back." 

"I'm signing my kids up for the next one - they lose too much money in Vegas." 

"The Friday session was GREAT! I only wish I could have stayed over for the rest of the weekend." 

"My hats off to ya’ll for putting on, yet again, a great event." 

"It's a long drive from Tennessee, but I'd go again next week." 

"Thanks to some fine shooting by Irish, Heavy, Dice Coach and a few others, I walked away with one of my largest wins yet. Whoohoo." 

"Was Crapsfest 2004, really worth it? You bet your sweet bippy, it was." 

"Meeting you guys was priceless." 

"Watch out! This dice thing WORKS! 

Maddog's Journey
by Maddog

Part 9: Give That Dog A Bone

(part 1 was in the  Feb/March Newsletter, part 2 was in the April Newsletter, part 3 was in the May/June Newsletter, part 4 was in the July/August Newsletter, part 5 was in the September Newsletter, part 6 was in the October Newsletter, part 7 was in the November Newsletter and part 8 was in the December/January Newsletter)

Well fellow crapsters, the journey goes on, one step at a time, but these articles have come to their conclusion.

I have had some great successes at the tables since picking up this DI obsession, and I have had some miserable failures.  I continue to learn and evolve my game.  Striving to improve as I hope you do also.  Before I sign off, I’d like to come back to an issue that I brought up previously.

Back in Part 5 and Part 6 I mentioned that I would talk about why I think Dice Influencing and craps table math does not mix.  Oil and vinegar.  Alcohol and gunpowder.  Paris Hilton and classy elegance.  Yeah, this might sound like a strange statement coming from me, what with all the graphs and charts and such that I’ve posted over the while.

Let me explain myself before you get the wrong idea.  There is no doubt that the game of craps is all about probabilities and statistics (math).  Maybe more so then any other casino game, if only because of the myriad and multiple concurrent bets available to the craps player.  Each bet having its own odds of occurrence and unique pay-off structure.

As we know, all the craps bets and rules are centered on the design of the random distribution of number occurrences that are possible when two six-side cubes are rolled and their top face results are combined.

The house advantage (or HA) for all craps bets are based on manipulations of the payouts from the true statistical odds of this theoretical random distribution.

I’m sure that you all would agree with me that it is important to understand some of the basic principles at the craps tables.

~ The dice distribution table is made up of 36 possible combinations.

~ The expected frequency of the 7 is six times in 36 rolls.

~ The expected frequency of the 6 is five times in 36 rolls.

~ The odds of rolling a six before a seven are 6 to 5 against, yet the casino pays the PL at 1:1 only and the Place 6 at 7:6,
thus shorting the winning payouts and collecting their gaming “entertainment” fee.

~ and so on and so on for all the available craps bets.

Most of us want to know what bets have the lowest vigorish (HA) to give us the best chance for a score.  In other words the least down-side risk while waiting for ole lady luck to nuzzle up and scratch us behind the ears.  By knowing how the house calculates the odds and payoffs we can at least make an informed decision on the gamble we are going to take. 

Some of you have learned the proper odds vs actual bet payouts through sheer time at the tables. Many have learned the odds from one or more of the many books that spell out the –EV bets in all their gory details.  Some have even taken the time to memorize all the tables and numbers for all the bets from the basic place 6 to the hopping hard ten.  Having a strong understanding of the game is of course a basic requirement and something anyone who wishes to do more then just “sniff around the table” must take the time to swallow.

But the DI simply MUST understand more than the fundamental numbers of the game. 

Why?  Well, what is the fundamental goal and objective of the DI? Isn’t it to alter the standard roll frequency distribution probability table? Ok, I stand corrected.  The fundamental objective is to make some money at the craps table. LOL.  But, really, to achieve the objective of putting more cabbage in our pockets, other then smart money management and a good scratch from lady luck, we must find a way to roll fewer sevens and more point numbers (or vise-verse for darkside betting).  That brings us back to altering the expected rolls distribution probability from what is found in a standard random game. Dice Influencing.

If a DI successfully alters the dice distribution probability tables, then he can no longer use the “quoted” EV/HA figures.  Yeah, let me say that again.  He can no longer use the standard EV/HA figures.  The -1.414% PL, et. al. just no longer have any meaning.   By altering the probabilities, the DI is now in a position to re-write the rules.  He/She must now figure EV/HA based on the new “true” odds probabilities.

If the DI is able to reduce the number of sevens in 36 to five instead of six, we now have a new probability distribution.  In the random set the six is 6:5 against.  In the new distribution table, the six is now 5:5 even money.  The Pass Line is now paying at true odds for the Point Six and the Place Six is getting $7 for $6.  In this new distribution the correct (true odds) payout for the Place Six should be $6 for $6 even money.  This DI is getting a bonus $1 for every unit on a Place Six hit.  He/She is now charging the casino to entertain him/her.

We must recognize that once the distribution probabilities are altered, it is no longer a matter of over-coming-the-HA for a bet.  All the “standard” HAs have no meaning and must be recalculated based on the new, altered, distribution probabilities to have any relevance.

This is the meaning behind my comment that “Dice Influencing and craps table math do not mix.”  Perhaps it would be more accurate for me to say, “Dice Influencing and traditional craps probability calculations do not mix.”

So what is this “new” skewed distribution probability?  If we need to recalculate the figures, what is the new distribution we are to use?

Ahhh, now that is the crux of the DI world.  This is where the math of the game blends with the art/skill of the DI shooter.  Due to the nature of the DI activity that includes varying degrees of skill, hand-eye coordination, focus and concentration, differences in physical make-up, etc, the new distribution is unique to each individual.

Joe might be reasonably good influencing the cubes.  He’s been a practicing DI for the past year and a half during which he has focused exclusively on perfecting the use of the 3V.  He prefers to shoot stick-right with an under-handed “bowler” grip and toss. Joe’s favorite betting strategy is to run a power-press progression on the 6 & 8.

Jill is intrigued by the greater pay-off to bet ratio of the outside place bets, she hasn’t been practicing all that much, but continues to work the 2V set to try for the outside number hits.  Jill likes the Straight-Out (SO) position and tosses with a one finger front grip.   She is pretty good about consistently landing her dice somewhere in the come-box.

John also shoots the 2V.  He practiced many years with other sets, but is now settling on the 2V and buying the outside numbers.  John has an interesting physical characteristic in that his first three fingers are the exact same length.   This physical quirk makes him amazingly adept with the three finger front grip.

Joe, Jill and John are all different people.  Each shooter coming to the table with their own agenda, their own style, and their own skill level ability.  Would you expect each of these shooters to consistently show the same number distributions?  If Joe and Jill went to the casino together would it make sense for them to use the same betting strategy?   (<Think about that one at your next hook-up, or craps class get-together!>)

Each must track their ability and skills and determine for themselves their “new” distribution model.  Once a shooter knows his “true” distribution model that is when the “math” requirement kicks in.  The shooter needs enough math to recalculate the true odds and payoff EV based on the new distribution model.

Math vs Experience:

Just as “man-cannot-live-by-bread-alone”, the well-rounded DI cannot live and die by the math of the game alone.  The math is a critical aspect and provides the foundation for every strategy/bet/gamble that we make, but as any experienced craps player can tell you, the volatility associated with any bet can have your bankroll swinging up and down more then the gold chains around a rappers neck.

It becomes a bit of a catch-22.  You cannot blindly play by the math, and yet, you cannot play blind and ignore the math.

So what is a poor ole dog to do, caught in the middle by such a seeming paradox?  The answer is just that.  The savvy craps player must find a way to play the game from the middle.  Not blinded by the math and yet not blind to the math.

Blinded by the math:

For me the issue of the “math of craps” is that all the math formulas are based on the probabilities using the law of large numbers.  The theoretical random toss distribution (out of 36 rolls: 6 sevens, 5 each of six and eight, 4 each of 5 and 9, etc.) is itself based on probability over a large number of rolls.  This is just as true if we are talking about the random game or if we are talking about the altered probabilities of the DI game.

During any average craps game it is a stretch to get in 100-200 rolls, let alone the thousands required to “normalize” the distributions.   During any given session our few dozen rolls can easily be characterized by the standard and expected variations to the norm of what we have carefully tracked in the thousands of practice rolls.

Volatility is still a big part of the game.  No matter how well you’ve tracked your throws and how big an advantage you have on the place 4 or place 6 “in practice”, when it comes to the real-deal, we all have to keep our heads.  Ya gotta still use smart money management, start slow and ensure your toss on the casino table is showing you the numbers you are used to seeing on your practice table.  If your expected numbers are not showing, keep your bets small while you work through what is wrong.  Walk away if you can’t find a way to get the numbers you expect.  Or, if you are skilled at reading your toss, adjust your betting to the numbers you are tossing.  When your numbers are showing, bet into your advantage, maybe start slow, but don’t be timid when you have the edge and the opportunity.

IMHO, it is not as simple as knowing that the 6 and 9 are your signature numbers and slapping down 5 unit bets on those boxes.  Understanding and being able to see our own shooting “Trends” is critical to success.  Testing the waters by jumping-in-with-both-feet (as Heavy warns us) simply because the math tells us we have an advantage, is a good way to find ourselves trying to dog paddle in the deep end wearing a long, shaggy fur coat.

The math and the numbers give us a good foundation and a solid starting point.  But, the numbers alone won’t make up for an inability to “read” the table and inexperience at “reading” and reacting to the results of our tosses.

Blind to the math:

As I’ve already mentioned, we also cannot go to the tables ignorant of the bet probabilities and payouts.  As DI’s the math of the game tells us where our advantage lies.  A large part of this is tracking and recording rolls during practice sessions.  Once the tracking part has been done, then the math part can kick in for the purpose of determining which numbers are rolling strong with our selected dice set.  Figure out how your numbers are rolling and what your “new” distribution graph looks like and you’re in the power position of determining the new “true” odds of your bets.

Tracking thousands of rolls in your basement and calculating EV for the myriad of available craps bets is not the most fun thing to do in the world.  Certainly it is not nearly as fun as getting a nice win during a casino session.  As a DI, we use the former to helps us get more of the latter.  And that is fun!  Isn’t that what we are all about?

A final bow-wow

I hope you have found these articles to have been informative.  Perhaps at least you have found them somewhat entertaining.  When I began these articles over a year ago I was still a relative DI noob and my hope was to help other new DI’s by sharing my learning experiences. It is funny to think that I began with the intention to write them from a “newbie” perspective.   I never thought that a year later I’d still be thinking that I’m writing from a “newbie” perspective, but I am.

My journey has not ended.  I’ve still got my nose to the trail always trying to sniff out that elusive quarry, the “Monster Hand”.  At several stops along the way, this Dog has dug up a few tasty ole soup bones, even a few “Monster Bones”, but in many ways I’m still just a pup with a lot to learn. 

It is a bit clich, but there is no “destination”, only the journey.  My journey continues and I hope my collections of stories have helped your journey to be both enjoyable and profitable.

See you at the tables, and remember;

Keep your toss straight and your rack full.

Shooting From The Don’ts…A Journey of Opportunity - Part VI

by the Mad Professor

Influencing ONE Roll Rather Than EVERY Roll

For me, one of the strongest attractions about Darkside-shooting is that you don’t need to be nearly as good of a dice-influencer in order to affect ONE roll as you do if you want to impact EVERY roll.

Of course, the same thing could be said for Rightside Point-shooting where you only have a Passline wager backed up with Odds…and no other active bets.  In either context, you are looking to influence just ONE number in order to win. 

If you have a little bit of influence over the dice, then the number where that persuasion can bear the quickest fruit is with the 7. 

The purpose behind this Don’t-side journey was to prove to myself that I could make just as much money by shooting from that side of the dice as I could by shooting from the more optimistic Do-side.

For the player who is looking to harmonize his skills together with the strongest and most dominant number of all the possible dice-combinations in order to bring about a faster win (and usually with less risk) than a Rightsider with the same skill-level; then Darkside-shooting (for a 7-Out) is the most obvious answer.

To determine whether this is an approach that is workable for your current dicesetting skill-set; you have to ask yourself:

       “Can I influence any other number MORE than I can influence the already-dominant 7?”

       “How frequently can I intentionally throw the 7 compared to how frequently I can intentionally throw any other given number?”

       “Can I make just as much money shooting from the Don’ts as I can from the Do-side of the dice?”

       “Does my average hand-length indicate that I’ll be able to shoot long-duration hot-hands and mid-duration warm-hands frequently enough to generate steady winnings, or can I derive more profit from short-duration hands by intentionally shooting for the 7?”

Please understand that I’m not trying to convert your religion, sexual persuasion or political affiliation.  Rather, it is important that you completely understand the FULL potential of your current skills.  In many cases, it will mean that you should at least consider what kind of money Darkside-shooting could supplement your bankroll with, compared to what your Rightside-shooting is contributing right now.

The premise behind this entire Shooting From The Don’ts…A Journey of Opportunity series is to give you a clear, wide-angle view at what an extended walk on the Darkside can look like.

Goodbye Canada…Hello Love Canal

No, that’s not the name of my latest porno movie…rather, it captures the transformed state of mind that a player goes through when he leaves the Honeymoon Capital of the World (Niagara Falls, Ontario), and enters Niagara Falls, New York (the former unofficial toxic-waste capital of the continental U.S.). 

Though those two localities share the same name as well as the thundering and mighty falls (often referred to as a newlywed-brides second biggest disappointment on her honeymoon); the two cities could not be more different.

Niagara Falls, NY has had the unenvied and unfortunate reputation for the last couple of decades as the most toxic community in the U.S.  Though I’m pretty sure the Chamber of Commerce didn’t specifically set out to acquire that reputation, it kind of fell on them when thousands of previously unattributed deaths (including that of countless children) and umpteen hideous birth-defects were traced directly to the mlange of chemicals that had been pumped into and stored in the former Love Canal shipping channel and covered over to make way for suburban subdivisions, elementary schools, day-care centers, and seniors centers…in other words, a perfect backyard for your kids to grow up in.

Until a short time ago, the former Love Canal neighborhoods looked like the abandoned villages surrounding Chernobyl…only not quite as bucolic. Swing-sets still stood, as did the homes, churches, schools and fire-stations.  Were it not for the green, brown and reddish chemical magma leachate that relentlessly oozed up through the ground; this could be Anytown, U.S.A…and apparently a PERFECT place to build a new casino.

Seneca Niagara Casino

To be fair, the Seneca Niagara Casino is not inside the barricaded, worst-contaminated parts of the area.  In fact it is quite a distance from the nastiest sections of it…which is a lot like saying “it’s in the NON-peeing end of the pool”.  Clearly, a short visit there isn’t going to instantly cause you to develop a third eye or suddenly sprout four arms (without any hands), but it’s important to note that there’s a good reason that Love Canal doesn’t get very many tourists.

On the other hand, you probably are best advised to drink non-local bottled water unless you are doing a little collecting of samples for your home-chemistry set and looking for Strontium, arsenic, dioxins, acrolein,  bromodichloromethane, selenium hexafluoride, pentachlorophenals, cadmium, and of course my favorite executioner-du-jour (chlorodibenzofurans),  along with 421 other equally appetizing chemicals that are now partially entombed in a plastic pool-liner type of “I-hope-this-low-priced-condom-is-strong-enough” containment-measure that provides folks around here with a warm and comfy EPA blanket that lets them sleep at night.

The casino is operated by the Seneca Nation of Indians and is housed within what used to be the former abandoned Niagara Falls Convention Center. If you think in terms of a mega-sized, crescent-roofed Quonset-hut with some neon-lights and an endless parade of slot-machines, you’ve got a fairly accurate picture.

At ~110,000 square feet, this casino is on par with the size of the Showboat and Resorts in Atlantic City; Bellagio, Circus Circus, Monte Carlo, and New Frontier in Vegas; the Grand Casino in Gulfport, or about twice the size of the Gold Strike and Hollywood casinos in Tunica.

Ventilation is top-notch and the place is kept cleaner than you’d expect for the amount of people that go through here on an average day.

Free on-site or near-site parking has been a little tight in the past, but that has eased somewhat in the two years since it opened. There are heavy local fines for illegally parked cars (that includes a strongly policed tag-and-tow area).  Additional county-run parking is cheap and accessible.

The Tables…The Players…The Dealers

Four twelve-foot craps tables await the eager player.  The dealers run their games with confidence and nearly all of the players are locals. 

       All four of their craps tables are beautiful to shoot on.   They aren’t overly crowded and most players are fairly knowledgeable.

        With almost no tourists or out-of-towners, most players know or at least are familiar with the faces of fellow players.

       You’ll usually find the table-minimums set at $5 and rarely above $10.  In fact, they are reluctant to raise the table-limit unless someone specifically asks the Pit Manager to do so.  In that case, they’ll raise the table-minimum to $15, but closely monitor it to make sure it stays busy…otherwise they drop it back down just as quickly.  Casino-management prefers the “quantity of players” route to make their money instead of the currently in vogue “quality of bet-size” route that most other operators prefer.  This has more to do with their recognition and acknowledgement of the finite number of local players in their geographic market area than it does with eschewing the current gaming-position yield-factor philosophy.

       Their box-people, table-game supervisors, pit-managers, and Casino Hosts are mostly top-notch professionals that could handily fit in at any other gaming jurisdiction without missing a beat.  I have nothing but praise for their demeanor.

As I mentioned a moment ago, I like the tables at Seneca.  

       They are neutral-rolling layouts that offer low-to-medium backwall-rebounds. 

       Tight-radius corners means more flat backwall area and less likelihood that a Passline rolling-lane toss will errantly hit the curved sidewall/backwall transition-area (instead of a flat area).

       A low-energy, low-trajectory, minimal backspin throw that initially lands on the free-Odds area of the Pass-Line (about 2.5 inches past the outer white line where it straightens out at a 90-degree angle) will bring my dice TO the backwall without any off-axis rebound.  At little harder or a little farther out on my landing, results in a slightly bigger rebound and rollout.

       While some players complain about the low-lighting levels in this casino, I haven’t run into any problem with tracking the dice or clearly seeing their exact facial-outcomes. 

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14 Months at the Sic-Bo Table
by Perry Benedik

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Just as the title implies, “Fourteen Months at the Sic-Bo Table” by Perry Benedik (PerryB) contains a database and forensic-like analysis of more than 46,000 actual Sic-Bo rolls that were recorded by the author at live-play casino Sic-Bo tables from September 25, 2003 to November 25, 2004 .

In addition to suggesting some profitable, low-risk, short-run flat-betting strategies (without any steep and stressful progressions), “Fourteen Months at the Sic-Bo Table” also provides an opportunity for the novice, as well as the experienced Sic-Bo enthusiast, to perhaps learn some very useful facts about the game’s behavior.

While only “Big” and “Small” Sic-Bo decisions were recorded, “Fourteen Months at the Sic-Bo Table” provides a database of actual results that can be used as a system testing-ground not only for Sic-Bo, but also for any even-money betting strategies at other casino games, such as Baccarat, Craps, and Roulette. It can also be enjoyed simply as an informative, long-term study of the game delivered in a well-written and entertaining way.

You can click here to see how Sic-Bo is played and why Sic-Bo Big and Small bets have a 2.8% house edge, equivalent to single zero Roulette.


Perry Benedik (PerryB) has always called upon his thirty-plus years of casino gambling experience as a respected contributor to various subjects on serious gambling website discussion forums, notably,Dice Setter, Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum and LetsTalkWinning.com.

While the majority of his background includes personal long-term studies on craps and baccarat, his thoughts and ideas about other casino-related subjects have always been well-received and highly-regarded by both readers and website moderators alike.

Some of PerryB’s own written articles on gambling that appear in “Fourteen Months at the Sic-Bo Table” were published on Dice Setter, and quite often leave the reader with some serious food for thought about how to approach the difficult goal of coming out ahead at the casino.

As an active professional musician since 1968, he learned long ago that technical skill alone is not all that it takes to make good music. Experience has taught him that playing fewer notes not only makes for fewer chances to make mistakes, but often produces a better-sounding tune. He has also seen for himself how a similar “less is more” approach usually produces better results at casino gambling as well.

In “Fourteen Months at the Sic-Bo Table”, PerryB’s attention is focused on the old Oriental “three-blind-dice” game, where no one ever seems to win, and the house usually takes all the money. Well, he has certainly done his homework on this one. Through extensive testing, he has picked up on the consistent and recurring behavior of certain aspects of the game. These were developed into some down-to-earth betting methods that are not only easy to learn, but can actually reduce the casino’s edge. Certain situations have even proven to be to the bettor’s advantage, with an overall winning flat-bet performance of more than 51%.  The same strategies can easily be applied to all even money bets in Roulette, Craps and Baccarat.

While purchaser-support is available, “Fourteen Months at the Sic-Bo Table” is primarily intended for information and entertainment purposes. With that alone being well worth the price of admission, for only $70 U.S., no guarantees can be offered against financial losses that may be incurred by using any suggested betting strategies, whether due to improper betting application, bettor strategy-modification, or just plain bad luck.

With your order, you receive a 22 page e-book, 273 pages of analyzed Sic-Bo results of 46,288 rolls, plenty of useful strategies, as well as some of Perry's famous articles.

If you have any comments or ideas for future issues, feel free to email me at ed@dicesetter.com

And as always, we are for contributors with a fresh perspective.

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